Woodman v Corsi, et. al. and a Special Edition of RC Radio

John Woodman will debate Mara Zebest, Karl Denninger, and Tom Harrison in the first hour and a half, and Jerome Corsi appearing for the last half hour on Mark Gillars Blog Talk show this afternoon at 3 PM EST.

Here is a direct link to the Gillar show. At 2 PM CST this should open and play: Mark Gillar Show. You can also call and listen on this number I believe: (646) 727-3170 (Mr. Gillar says he will not be taking questions.)

John will also be on a special edtion of RC Radio immediately following for a  “debriefing” starting at 5 PM EST/ 4 PM CST. The link is RC Radio Debate Wrapup Show or you may call (347) 324-5546 to listen or ask a question.

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4 Responses to Woodman v Corsi, et. al. and a Special Edition of RC Radio

  1. richCares says:

    listen to the show was very unnerving, Mr. Woodman was out-shouted and made no gains, it was a waste of time. (he was arguing with birthers after all) I think Mr. Woodman now realizes that birthers are allergic to facts and the truth.

  2. I hope you caught my interview with John Woodman following the debate. It went off pretty much as I expected. Mark Gillar did a fair job of moderating but could have done better. I will not fault him too much because I have been in his place and it is not easy. I think he was unprofessional to change the order around and add another participant, Nellie (Butterdizillion) at the last minute. Also, there was supposed to be a 30 minute one on one with John Woodman and Jerome Corsi at the end of the show and that didn't happen.

    My take on the interview is this:John Woodman acted professionally and with courtesy. He never yelled or butted in except when Zebest and Denninger tried to talk over him. Jerry Corsi wanted to leave as soon as Woodman nailed him on his lie about the 1955 Hawaii Medical Journal article and birth certificate number that it never even mentions. He went into full obfuscation and lying mode. He made a big deal about the question as to why the White House posted a PDF and how it was made. That was a straw man argument because there are valid reasons they posted a PDF and compressed it. The chain of custody and authentication are from the State of Hawaii. That is what counts. Corsi is just a sleaze merchant and acted unprofessionally. Mara Zebest is clueless. I had never heard her before and I was astounded at her lack of expertise in just about everything. I can see why she couldn't get her computer to boot at the WND presser. She was petty and completely unprofessional. Karl Denninger is a loudmouthed jerk. I would have asked him how many forgeries has he ever detected? Both Denninger and Zebest were clueless when John Woodman clearly showed that neither the White House PDF document nor the AP jpg could have been the source for the other so there must be an original document. I congratulate John Woodman for going on the Mark Gillar show with the deck stacked against him. He fared very well. I would have run it more like a real debate had RC Radio been chosen as the venue.

  3. richCares says:

    yes, I caught him on RC radio, that was a good segment, Mr. Goodman was a class act, his opponents were not. Any posts these opponents may make will be snide remaks on how they won. They need an analyst to help them recover from so much hate.

  4. John Woodman posted the following comment at his blog:

    Thomas, let me also recommend that you listen to the 1-hour debate wrap-up show that I did with Reality Check Radio. I’ve listened to most of both broadcasts now, and I find the second one far more listenable, for the simple reason that I was able to explain a lot of things without people continually interrupting and trying to shout me down:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/rcr/2012/01/21/rc-radio–lfbc-debate-wrapup-show

    The tactics used by my opponents in the debate were very interesting, and I think reflective of the impossibility of their position. Since the facts are not in their favor, they really couldn’t engage in a straightforward debate on the facts without getting their clocks cleaned. This, in my opinion, is why they resorted to the various tactics of:

    focusing on irrelevant minutiae such as claiming the White House should have issued a statement explaining their choice of electronic format
    attempting to draw me off target by interjecting a question after every single sentence that I spoke (which Corsi did at one point)
    labeling me “very argumentative” — even though I wasn’t the one interrupting others’ points and shouting others down (Corsi again)
    interrupting
    shouting me down
    and attempting to discredit me by employing ridicule and making the claims (with absolutely zero evidence to support them) that my book contained nothing of value and that my analysis was “incoherent.”

    If my analysis were in fact incoherent (or even in any way invalid), then some of these “esteemed experts” would undoubtedly have refuted the arguments in the book. Five months after publication of the book, not one single significant argument in it has been factually refuted. The only correction I’ve had to issue so far is from pages 187-189 where I incorrectly referred to the Democratic Party as the “Democrat” Party. I have an earlier blog post noting that correction.

    In any event… enjoy the rest of the book! Let me know of any further questions; I will try and answer them.

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