Oral Argument in Paige v State of Vermont, et. al.

Thanks to a reader named William Rawle who provided an audio file of the oral arguments in Paige v State of Vermont, et. al. before the Vermont Supreme Court that were conducted on November 30, 2016. Vermont resident H. Brooke Paige had challenged the eligibility of Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and two other candidates in the Vermont 2016 presidential primary. Paige unsuccessfully challenged President Barack Obama with a similar lawsuit filed during the 2012 election cycle.

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5 Responses to Oral Argument in Paige v State of Vermont, et. al.

  1. I am listening to the audio. Paige is [too] quickly reading his prepared statement. A male judge interrupts and reminds Paige that they heard his de Vattel nonsense last time and the dismissal was on other grounds. Shouldn’t he get around to addressing those? He goes back the prepared de Vattel crap. Finally a female judge interrupts and the judges took over to guide the discussion to the key issues of mootness and standing.

    Judge asks about personal harm to Paige. He claims the other “ineligible” candidates prevented him from getting signatures. Paige claims the law only allows a person to sign one petition but cites no law. Judges didn’t buy it. The lower court found his campaign consisted of nothing. He had exactly one worker, his wife.

    Daloz: It was Paige’s fault that the case is moot. He made multiple procedural errors. He could have appealed the injunction dismissal but didn’t. Daloz makes a strong argument there are so many different situations on citizenship and circumstances of birth that any ruling about this coming up again would be speculative and would be an advisory ruling.

    If anyone wants to bet on a ruling in Paige’s favor after listening to this count me in for some action.

    • tbfreeman says:

      Paige wasn’t horrible, but he won’t win. Paige wasted way too much of his precious time on his wrong beliefs about the meaning of natural-born citizenship — an issue not even before the court. And none of the justices were buying his mootness argument; Paige even repeated his same losing arguments about the mootness exceptions that failed to carry the day in 2013.

      As a wager, after the Vermont Supreme Court dismisses Paige’s appeal, Paige could promise to return here and admit that he was wrong. But I doubt he has the strength of character to do even that.

  2. I would be good with that. I agree Paige was at least as good as Apuzzo and miles ahead of Orly Taitz. Orly has entertainment value beyond comparison though. Who could ever forget her interrogating herself in Georgia?

    Paige however like the moron Trump he loves will never admit he was wrong.

  3. I checked the Vermont Supreme Court website and there is no decision in Paige’s case. I suspect we will see something around June based upon the time they took to issue a decision in his last case.

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