Former state supreme court Justice Richard B. Sanders who is representing a Washington resident Linda Jordan for the limited purpose of challenging the amount of fees that were accessed against her for filing a frivolous appeal in Jordan v Reed was my guest on RC Radio on March 12. Justice Sanders spent 15 years on the court until he was defeated in his bid for re-election in 2010. His bid to regain his place on the bench in 2012 was also unsuccessful. Sanders, who is now in private practice, thinks that the award of just under $13,000 in fees made by the Washington appellate court was unreasonably high.
We had a most interesting discussion about the case. Sanders admitted that the case filed by Jordan was frivolous and was really doomed from the start. Sanders said “I don’t think she could get from here to there in the context of this case …”
Sanders repeatedly tried to distance himself from any claims that President Obama was not born in Hawaii or was ineligible. He was not about to be labeled a “Birther”. The following exchanges clearly demonstrate that:
Me: “[President Obama] produced two birth certificates that were valid. The short form birth certificate that the Birthers made such a hick-hack over is a perfectly legitimate birth certificate. If a sealed birth certificate were presented before your court with no evidence to the contrary and with a letter and verification from the [Hawaii] saying it’s valid, wouldn’t you tend to accept it as valid?
Me: “ …. by his birth in Hawaii, you know, and the fact that he’s 35 years old, and he’s been a resident, he was a resident of the country for 14 years before running for President, then he is eligible, correct, if those points are all correct?”
Sanders: “Yes, yeah, sure.”
Sanders also seemed surprised to learn that in preparation for her original case his client had illegally accessed the DHS/SSA E-Verify Self Check system by pretending to be Barack Obama to run a check on a social security number she believed to have belonged to Obama. When I asked him if he was aware of that he said “No, no I wasn’t.”
Sanders also does not buy into the kooky Birther theory that a natural born citizen must have two citizen parents. When I asked him if he bought into that theory he replied “No I don’t ..”
Thanks again to Justice Sanders for an interesting interview. You can read many of his opinions while on the court at his web site, http://www.justicesanders.com/
Again Justice Sanders made clear his involvement in this case is limited. He has been hired by Ms Jordan because she screwed up when she filed this frivolous case and now is on the hook for some serious bucks. While I think Justice Sanders intentions are good I cannot in all honesty wish him any success in this particular case. There should be a penalty for such gross abuse of the people’s courts in an attempt to smear our President.
The audio of the interview is available on Blog Talk Radio, iTunes, or you can listen here:
Thanks to the hard work by AnitaMaria at the Fogbow a complete transcript of the interview is now available.