I haven’t written anything since the election so I thought I would put together some random thoughts on the coming end of President Obama’s second term, the Trump administration, and what this all means as far as the Birther movement.
First, I don’t think any conspiracy movement ever completely ends. We still have 911 truthers, various Kennedy assassination conspiracy theorists, and moon landing hoaxers pushing their crazy theories. There is good reason to think that a few hard core Birthers will still be around in 20 or 30 years. Mike Zullo will be 80 and still promising to release universe shattering evidence any day now. There will still be Birthers who will believe that once the “facts” are out there everything President Obama did way back in the early 2000’s will be undone. But for practical purposes the Birther movement died with the reelection of President Obama in 2012.
What can one really say about the election of the idiot Donald Trump? I am deeply ashamed of the minority of my fellow Americans who somehow took leave of their senses and elected this pathetic, immature, petulant and dangerous person to office. Anyone who believes this was a normal election is delusional. James Comey elected Trump. Without the jackass FBI Director Comey sticking his nose in where it never belonged not once but twice Trump would have been trounced. One of my great disappointments with President Obama is that he didn’t do what he should have done and fired Comey. What Comey did was unethical, unprecedented, and cause for termination.
I think Trump’s election reveals there is a sickness in this country. I think it was primarily a backlash by middle class white people who see the country changing in ways they don’t like. They don’t like seeing power go to minorities as the demographics of the country change. Trump, assisted by his fellow Republicans tapped in to this fear and racism. They made them feel that it was OK to be sexist and racist again.
Edit: I ran across this video today. I think every Trump supporter needs to watch it.
Joe Arpaio decided to take one last long drink from the well of Birtherism before leaving office. On December 15th he and Cold Case Posse lead Mike Zullo held a final “press conference”to present the latest nonsense theory that someone forged Barack Obama’s long form certificate. The event was not an official MCSO event. It wasn’t listed on the MCSO web site or Facebook page. While the press was invited they were not allowed to ask any questions apparently because the press had asked hard questions like why did you spend taxpayer money on this when you said you weren’t? Some supporters like Miki Booth attended just to give the event the proper festive touch. It was not reported whether the turkey accompanied Miki on the trip.
Innocent bird with a turkey
Finally, I want to explain why I pulled an article written by Brian Reilly that was his response to a hit piece published by Sharon Rondeau at the Post & Email. First, it had already been published at Obama Conspiracy Theories so publishing it here would be redundant. Second, I found some issues with Mr. Reilly’s response.
A couple of things bothered me about Mr. Reilly’s response. First, he failed to address the allegation that he was fired as a volunteer posse member when he lived in Washington State. From what Kevin Davidson had posted in a comment it was merely that the new police chief or sheriff decided to cut the number of posse members after assuming office. If that was the case then why did Mr. Reilly not address this allegation in his response?
Mr. Reilly in my opinion doesn’t adequately address when and why he had an epiphany on his Birtherism. Sharon Rondeau posted a copy of an email that Brian Reilly sent to unknown persons on May 23, 2012 the day after Arizona Secretary of State Bennett released the verification letter received from the State of Hawaii. In the email Mr. Reilly expressed that he was upset and disappointed with Bennett. He suggested Bennett needed remove President Obama from the Arizona presidential election ballot instead. That idea was just plain stupid. Can you imagine SoS Bennett removing the President’s name from the ballot based on the findings of a bunch of volunteer idiots? I don’t use that term flippantly. The CCP was demonstrably a bunch of idiots.
Mr. Reilly doesn’t address this email at all in his response. Instead he attacked Mike Zullo for trying to keep the investigation going beyond the 2012 election. What happened between May 23, 2012 and late June when Brian Reilly left the CCP? I don’t think we really know.
I think there were many inaccuracies in Sharon Rondeau’s article and her non interview interview with Mike Zullo. However, I wish Mr. Reilly would have been more forthcoming in a few areas.
I appreciate that Mr. Reilly now repudiates the work of the Cold Case Posse. I think he should apologize to President Obama and his supporters for his prior Birtherism and what it spawned however.
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you are incredible (but not in a good way). You say Arpaio’s last report on the fake COLB is wrong? Please explain how the dates are exactly the same, despite being hand stamped, as that other birther certificate.
Then as to people choose Trump of shillary? Here’s her record, which I suppose you think is fine and dandy:
1 – fired from the watergate committee for incompetence
over 50 “enemies” of the clintons “died mysteriously” such as Vince Foster and 3 more in the last month
2 – clintons pretty much stole people’s homes in whitewater
3 – they fired a good person to put in a buddy in “travelgate”
4 – she blamed Benghazi on a video despite everybody knowing otherwise
5 – she’s a perennial liar such as when she claimed she “landed under (gun) fire” at the Bosnia airport when there was no such problem
6 – she didn’t bother with security with the 30,000+ emails and then LIED about it (also she lost 13 devices used with it)
7 – she complains about Trump with women when Bill has been accused of raping several women
8 – she says she’s against Fraccing of oil but tells the oil companies that she’s proud how she helped get it started
9 – she is for the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal, though both parties are against it
10 – she got 30 million from Russia for our uranium
11 – she recently transferred $1.8 BILLION to a Saudi bank (how did she get that much money?)
12 – the clintons collected millions of dollars for “Haiti relief” at that last storm and kept 90% of the money
So all you can do is repeat a bunch of debunked lies? Pathetic.
Since when is August 8 identical to August 24?
Funny.
My list is a debunked lies? Now that’s truly pathetic. ALL are substantiated. (ask the people of Haiti how they feel about the Clintons. There’s videos on YouTube that show it.)
So, why can’t you debunk how all those hand stamped dates are EXACTLY the same as the one on An Le’s birth certificate?
Here you go: http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2016/12/looking-at-zullos-press-conference-more-closely/
what a JOKE.
Here’s one example of how that is a JOKE. It says “Mike Zullo said that angles are exactly the same.”
Huh? No, Joe said that the document was scanned with a 1.5 degree difference and when it’s tilted back that 1.5 degrees, they’re EXACTLY the same (and I saw the video that overlaid the two with that 1.5 degrees done and they ARE exactly the same.
No they are not the same even when rotated. If you rotate the image to match the angles of the date stamps the form lines are misaligned. Again how is August 24 identical to August 8? What about the boxes and the x’s Zullo said were identical but aren’t? Are you that stupid? Of wait that was a rhetorical question.
I saw the video and after a 1.5 degree rotation, the dates were EXACT MATCHES. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Geez, you’re totally ridiculous and DISTORTING what Arpaio said/showed doesn’t make your delusion right.
I’m still waiting for you to tell us ALL how that list I gave about shillary was “debunked”. Having a bit of trouble with that? Just deal with the Haiti one (though it’d be fun to see you try to say shillary wasn’t fired from Watergate for INCOMPETENCE)
No Hillary wasn’t fired from the Watergate committee.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombie-claim-that-hillary-clinton-was-fired-during-the-watergate-inquiry/?utm_term=.f45150b134f0
Do you understand how nonsensical that is? You have to manipulate the images to try to make the claim. And if you move the date stamps on one side then the other side goes way off as does the rest of the document. Further what do you think that proves? Obama’s was issued first. Using birther logic the Ah’nee certificate was lifted from Obama’s.
And there you have it. August 8 is August 24 because Haiti.
(RC, just so you know, stevor posted that same list on this far-right blog.)
Just for starters, stevor, as it turns out the video did play a role in the Benghazi attack. It didn’t cause it, but it was done partly in response to it, and also they upped their timetable because they realized that the protests over the video all over the Middle East would delay response and stretch our embassy and consulate security (that specific budget had been slashed by the GOP Congress, need I remind you) thin. Furthermore, civilians outraged over the video joined in the attack. We know this from the testimony of a captured perpetrator.
The video itself was made by a Coptic Christian named Nakoula Basseley Nakoula under false pretenses. Under the pseudonym “Sam Bacile,” Nakoula tricked the actors and crew into thinking they were making a movie to be titled Desert Warrior set in Egypt 2000 years ago (centuries before Muhammad or Islam), and he filmed the actors against a green screen and altered their dialogue in post production.
He released the Arabic version just days prior to the anniversary of September 11, for the express purpose of provoking violent responses from Muslims to make them look worse. He did it specifically to cause innocent people to be killed just to make Muslims look bad. He himself went into hiding under yet another alias.
You know how people on your side like to say that progressives are being awfully generous with other people’s money? Well, Nakoula was being awfully “courageous” with other people’s lives!
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt about NOT being as ridiculous as RC. That video was around WEEKS before the event. The event was MUCH more complicated. Though most leftists don’t bother to read up on such things, they’d have have run across articles that told what it was really about. Take your choice. If you TRULY care for the truth, read them all and see what jives:
here’s a quote from the above article: “new documents from the Department of State containing the telephone transcripts from the evening of September 11, 2012, in which then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton informs then-Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Kandil that the deadly terrorist attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi “had nothing to do with the film.”
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/still-debunking-the-benghazi-debunkers/?utm_source=AIM+-+Daily+Email&utm_campaign=email120214&utm_medium=email
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/08/29/benghazi-witness-u-s-provided-arms-to-jihadists-who-killed-americans-in-911-attack/
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51346
Benghazi explained – Interview with an ‘Intelligence Insider’
http://www.patriotnetdaily.com/benghazi-was-a-planned-tragedy/
http://departed.co/hillarys-hacked-emails-show-saudi-money-financed-benghazi-attack
http://cowboybyte.com/35484/judicial-watch-dismantles-another-benghazi-cover/
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/benghazigate_where_are_the_drone_videos.html#ixzz2nADTsvpx
https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-judicial-watch-found-hillary-deleted-benghazi-requests/
http://conservativetribune.com/media-hiding-benghazi-report/
http://eaglerising.com/27362/newly-released-emails-prove-obama-administration-still-lying-about-benghazi/
http://eaglerising.com/36573/newly-released-emails-show-hillary-aide-fed-questions-to-benghazi-committee/
I have more articles (saving such things is a hobby) but I doubt that you’ll bother to read more than 2 of them (if that many) because I figure you “can’t handle the truth”
You need a better hobby: I checked a few of those, and each of them contained information that was known to be false at the time of publication.
E.g., is was revealed in October 2012 that Embassy Benghazi had sent a mistaken report the night of 9/11/12 that Ansar al Sharia had claimed credit for the attack. Which Clinton passed along to Egypt, and to her daughter, before it was checked in DC and found to be wrong. Despite that fact, when Clinton’s email to her daughter was leaked, the Republicans claimed that it proved she knew it wasn’t about the video.
Another of those turds you threw in the punchbowl claimed the attack was a planned attempt to kidnap Stevens to swap him for an imprisoned terrorist. This was based on some guesswork by an Army intelligence analyst that was also proven wrong back in 2012.
I suggest you make your new hobby fact-checking what you read before you save it. It’s good practice in general, and will make you look a lot less foolish.
That’s why I don’t waste much time on stevor and his ilk. They come in here and post garbage that a few minutes of Google searches can debunk. Then they never apologize for wasting your time. They never admit they were flat out wrong.
Now we have a President-elect whom the Russian’s celebrated getting elected and what does he want to waste time doing? Posting a bunch of complete bullshit links attacking Hillary Clinton. He doesn’t give a crap about facts.
A few minutes doesn’t always cut it these days. As I often say: “Google doesn’t tell you waht’s true. It only tells you what’s popular”. With the large number of blogs and comment sections on the web these days, and a large number of gullible suckers posting links to the BS they’ve read, the false stories often rise above the true ones in the search results. More than once I’ve had to wade through pages of results from the likes of conservativetreehouse and gatewaypundit to find something reality-based.
You make an excellent point. An example is how the Birthers have so polluted Google on anything to do with the term “natural born citizen”.
It’s funny the right for years has made up this pack of lies on the Clinton’s. Hillary was a terrific Senator and Secretary of State, admired on both sides of the isle. She has been dedicated to public service her entire life. However, I bet Stevor would kiss that lying, racist, misogynist, piece of human filth Trump’s ass at 12 noon in Times Square.
name ONE accomplishment that is presidential by shillary. When I ask others I got “elected” and “nominated”. Sorry, no good.
Something DONE by her!
Your other comment went into the spam queue because it had too many nutty links. You still haven’t admitted that Hillary wasn’t fired from the Watergate committee.
you’re SO PATHETIC. You can’t stand that I back up what I say and you just have your opinion and thus you try to come up with an excuse to now allow the PROOF I give because your “followers” might actually WAKE UP.
So, you don’t know that “not exactly” means NO?
Yeah, total loser!
This went in the spam cue. Is there one link on there from a real news source? Canada Free Press? You are kidding?
Actually, the video was the cause of the Benghazi attack. The attackers, themselves, told reporters as it was happening that they were there about the video.
The guy who orchestrated it also said, when he was captured, that that was why he organized it. He had also told friends that immediately afterwards. There were no plans to change: abu Khatalla decided to do it that same day, and called up a bunch of militants he knew from various groups to go exact revenge for “insulting the Prophet”. It was a murderous version of a flashmob.
not exactly fired but according to YOUR ARTICLE:
In 1999, nine years before the Calabrese interview, Zeifman told the Scripps-Howard news agency: “If I had the power to fire her, I would have fired her.” In a 2008 interview on “The Neal Boortz Show,” Zeifman was asked directly whether he fired her. His answer: “Well, let me put it this way. I terminated her, along with some other staff members who were — we no longer needed, and advised her that I would not — could not recommend her for any further positions.”
To the others, I know you won’t dare go against your leader “Reality Check”, so do YOUR OWN RESEARCH. Look up the video of Arpaio’s 9 points for yourself!
Funny coming from a person who didn’t back up a single BS claim. By the way why did you leave out this part of the article? What a lying sack of crap you are Stevor. Caught lying again weren’t you?
Too lazy to look it up? (or afraid it would explode what you have in the way of a mind) So, here’s a link:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=clinton+haiti+scandal
So Stevor no more comments until you answer this yes or no question: Was Hillary fired from the Watergate committee as you claimed? Yes or no?
What a pathetic spectacle! Stevor dumps a list of twelve preposterous claims — more than twelve, if you include the unnumbered one about the mysterious deaths — and then, when challenged to defend them, he chokes on the very first one!
Hey Stevorino… you wanna know why the Repugnicans were so hell-bent on hanging the Benghazi tragedy on Clinton? BECAUSE IT WAS ACTUALLY THEIR FAULT.
“WASHINGTON ― Three Republican senators — including two former presidential candidates who’ve long criticized former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for the attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi — introduced a bill on Tuesday that would halve funds for embassy security, construction and maintenance until the next president moves the U.S. Embassy in Israel to the disputed city of Jerusalem.
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Yet diplomatic security funding increased, growing more than 1000 percent between 1998 and 2012, John Norris, the director of the Sustainable Security Initiative at the liberal Center for American Progress, told PolitiFact in 2014. The State Department now employs four security people per diplomat, Norris told the fact-checking group.
Despite that increase in funding, however, the State Department was required to issue security contracts to the lowest bidder that could do the job. That policy forced it to rely on Blue Mountain Group, a relatively unknown British firm, and Muhannad Alamir, Blue Mountain’s Libyan partner, to hire the unarmed guards who failed to do their jobs the night of the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the facility in Benghazi.
Partially in response to the Benghazi tragedy, Congress has temporarily authorized the State Department to award local guard contracts based on “best value” rather than lowest price. Some lawmakers, including Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), support making that change permanent. But cutting the embassy budget in half might make that harder.”
That’s right. They had forced the State Dept. to use the lowest bidder for the job, which is why there was no armed guards that night in Benghazi. And they’re going to do it again. Why? Because to the GOP, any taxpayer money not shoved into the pockets of their wealthy corporate buddies is a mistake they intend to correct.
No, it wasn’t their fault. The DoS had staffed and equipped the facility to cope with the kinds of attacks that had happened before: groups of 5 to, perhaps, 20. The assault by 150-200 was unprecedented in modern times, the sort of thing that used to happen in colonial rebellions.
Despite the GOP lies, some of the requests for security improvements had been approved. But, even if every one of them had been, the results would have been about the same, except that the attackers’ casualty count might have been a little higher (a request for a single heavy machine gun had been denied).
All this finger-pointing is like castigating your county council after a 500-year flood for only building a 12-foot levee when the previous 100-year record was only 9 feet. Nobody can anticipate every bad thing that might happen.
I listened to a bit of Mike Zullo last night. You have to really sift through layers of crapola to find truth in anything Zullo says. At 14:00 at bit of truth came out. Volin asked him about people saying that after the December 15 press conference it was over. Zullo said that as far as the sheriff’s office the investigation was over. It ended under Sheriff Joe Arpaio. He then went on with a bunch of vague BS about how they are are not stopping. He never really explained who “they” is or what is going to happen.
Zullo is hoping Congress will do something. Except for a hand full of new faces these are the same people who have been inundated with Birther nonsense for eight years and did nothing.
So the facts are that after 64 months they have nothing. There are no indictments, no person of interest, and not even a theory about what crime has been committed or who committed it. No investigation is going on by any agency of any government body. Zullo is miffed that people who once supported him had dared to point out how long it has gone on with no results. His response was to block their emails and sulk.
you are a true joke. You wanted evidence. I give you a dozen articles to provide it. As to your counter evidence, you give YOUR OPINION. Sorry, dear, your opinion is WORTH NOTHING.
It’s been amusing but enough is enough. You’re a hopeless delusional LOSER living in o’bamaland
Your links are to nothing but right wing nut job propaganda that has no truth. Nothing they say is believable. They exist to fleece a following of idiots who just want to be told who to hate.
My response debunks all of your claims as I am responding to your citations the same way you respond to ours.
I win
The story about how Trump is treating our hard working men and women and their families in the foreign service encapsulates what a disgusting, petty, piece of scum he is.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/5/1617543/-What-a-jackhole-Trump-orders-all-ambassadors-to-yank-their-kids-out-of-school-and-come-home-ASAP